Finally made it to Pinnacle division yeah me … NOT! Was racing in Elite division since game dropped, don’t play often but there i stayed. Won 2 league challenges and a 2nd finish in one ending today. My daughter only raced 27 races and only C class introductory because its a ghost lobby and i didnt want her wrecking anyone. What does she got to do with this … alot. 27 races and reaches Pinnacle division, me .. 700 +races and still in eilite (until today). She never raced a single league race period. So…running clean laps and no wrecking got her there. (remember this part). So i entered another league race last Sunday, musclecar ghost, perfect as i can tune these pretty good. (for me anyways). Won alot and tried to stay top 5 when there was better drivers in the lobby which there was. Funny that the fastest guy there that i seen had a xbox gamerscore of about 25, was running 4 to 5 seconds a lap faster (obviously better) consistantly was driving dirty laps, oh well. Anyways, learning from my daughter i ran fast and clean laps except for my running off track or slammings walls. lol. i had a blast and met guys as good as me or better that became friends. probably my best races on forza !!! NOW i finally make it to Pinnacle league and get to race the guys who make me want to race better…tune better…become a top leaderboard kinda guy…NOT. Entered the sportcar challenge d class … WOW REALLY!!! my first race a t bathurst and going up the hill 1st straight side by side with another car when right at the entrance to the turn a guy goes between us to take the lead … wrecking us two and allowing the 11 cars behind us crashing into us. SMDH. then reconized the name who started it all and was shocked to remember seeing him on top 50 on almost every leaderboard. These are who i’m racing against now?? not wanting to come to any quick judgements i stick around for 10 more races. Hanging my head down 
i cannot believe what i saw. i saved all the replays and watched them from different drivers and im disgusted to no end. Really??? i just worked my butt off to get in this league to be racing the best forza has only to see and be in worse racing than grassroots?? i see one get loose on a turn and tap ( just tap ) the guy next to him and he gets taken out as repayment…teamates teaming up wrecking a guy who was alittle more agressive than they obviously was…track cutting to a whole new extreme i never seen … clean passes??? not a single one. just wreck them out of your way racing … follow through turns??? NO … why?? when you can make your own racing lines…so what if it runs the guy who is racing clean into the grass. I’m beyond words of the mockery i seen. i have raced top leadboard guys before in FM3, 4 and 5 with half way decent results but this… this wasn’t even anything i’d call racing. My thoughts as of now are … if this FM6’s idea of the best racers being apart of the highest league .. then i don’t anything to with it or associated with this group as i would rather race alone or not at all. Never have i seen such disrespect for a sport, especially coming from those who are the fastest in this game (not all as i know a few that are suberb). take me off the list … remove me from your pinacle league , i’d like to race with players who want to race clean like i do. i’m completely disgusted!!! the worst racing i’ve seen…ever!!! SMH . now remember that part i wanted you to…should not be that easy to reach the highest league. just me probably but, just bacause you are top 100 on the leaderbords doesnt give you the right to just wreck those in your way, your fast!!! go around them or practice patience like “real race car” drivers do. For those in the top 100 that know me, this is not about you … reason why i care is i know there are good racers here. i don’t ERS johnson but he had a great post dealing with all these matters and think not only should Turn 10 find a way to impose them into the game they should pay him for his ideas. if a MOD could put a link to his post which is a sticky i’d appreciate. my thanks to you ERS Johnson and hope everyone reads it. For FM6 … i’m done!!! i will race in rivals and hope to get better but as far as racing outside a ghost lobby… not doing it. cant believe that you Turn 10 have the power and tools and have allowed this to progress through the years to what it is. disappointed to say the least. wow…unblievable
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I raced in the league once, for one race a few months ago, i didn’t finish the race, and will never go back to them.
I’ve found the hoppers have got better since they introduced grid ranking. I’ve had some really good races recently, with very few wreckers to speak of.