<50 (?) cars in FM remain to be revealed - analysis and predictions [Update 2023/9/15: +27 cars]

Nice

I just hope my Sagaris makes it into the game with a refreshed model…

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Wow didn’t realise there are that many new cars in horizon 4/5 compared to fm7

It’s bound to happen when games are separated by a large amount of time between releases. 2017 till current date is 6 years +.

If we’re talking about remaining cars, I wouldn’t expect buggies, off-roader Baja models, and the like to make the cut. Unless if they were planning on adding dirt tracks (which they won’t), those would be relegated to Horizon.

As for other road cars, maybe they should also improve on not just the basic road cars but also performance SUVs, new trendy models (looking at you Infiniti Q60), etc.

Most of the FH5 road cars (be it car pass and playlist) should be in the game.

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Here goes the second part of predictions - I’ve analysed the whole car list from FM7 and tried to guess (considering what models are already confirmed for the new FM) which vehicles are more probable to be included in sequel, which less and which most likely will be cut (e.g. off-roaders).

These are major categories of cars that I marked as highly probable to return: all race cars (old and new, with exception for models that should be replaced with newer counterparts), modern sports, super-, hyper- and other high performance cars (including the most powerful SUVs), cult classic sports cars, other cars featured in every or almost every Forza game, as well as cars that simply match those already confirmed (because Forza Motorsport series, just like any proper racing game, tends to group together similar cars for varied competition).

I’ve also included Lexus and Toyota models from FM6 (as these brands were almost entirely absent in FM7 due to licensing issues). Of course there is a possibility that more cars from previous Forza Motorsport games will be brought back for the launch roster. Not all cars remaining to be revealed necessarily need to come from FM7 or Forza Horizon 4/5.

I’m going to update the criteria and the list as Turn 10 reveals more cars featured in Forza Motorsport. There are ca. 750 cars in total so don’t be scared when you expand the list :sweat_smile:

Preliminary notes
  • All variants with different liveries are treated as one car.
  • I’ve excluded all Forza Edition and Fast & Furious Edition cars.
FM7 and FM6 cars currently confirmed to return
  • 2001 Acura Integra Type-R
  • 2017 Acura NSX
  • 2011 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Quadrifoglio Verde
  • 1990 Alpine GTA Le Mans
  • 1971 AMC Javelin AMX
  • 1970 AMC Rebel ‘The Machine’
  • 2013 Ariel Atom 500 V8
  • 1958 Aston Martin DBR1
  • 1960 Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato
  • 1964 Aston Martin DB5
  • 1989 Aston Martin AMR1
  • 1998 Aston Martin V8 Vantage V600
  • 2008 Aston Martin DBS
  • 2015 Aston Martin Vantage GT12
  • 2017 Aston Martin V12 Vantage GT3
  • 2016 Aston Martin Vulcan
  • 1983 Audi Sport quattro
  • 2015 Audi S1
  • 2011 Audi RS 3 Sportback
  • 2018 Audi #1 Audi Sport RS 3 LMS
  • 1989 Audi 90 quattro IMSA GTO
  • 1995 Audi RS 2 Avant
  • 2001 Audi RS 4 Avant
  • 2013 Audi RS 4 Avant
  • 2004 Audi S4
  • 2006 Audi RS 4
  • 2003 Audi RS 6
  • 2015 Audi RS 6 Avant
  • 2013 Audi R8 Coupé V10 plus 5.2 FSI quattro
  • 2016 Audi R8 V10 plus
  • 2016 Audi #17 Rotek Racing TT RS
  • 2014 Audi R18 e-tron quattro
  • 1939 Auto Union Type D
  • 2014 BAC Mono
  • 2003 Bentley #7 Team Bentley Speed 8 (FM6)
  • 2014 Bentley Continental GT3
  • 2017 Bentley Continental Supersports
  • 1973 BMW 2002 Turbo
  • 1975 BMW #25 BMW Motorsport 3.0 CSL
  • 1981 BMW M1
  • 1979 BMW M1 Procar
  • 1995 BMW 850 CSi
  • 1991 BMW M3
  • 1997 BMW M3
  • 2000 BMW 323ti Sport
  • 2005 BMW M3
  • 2016 BMW M4 GTS
  • 1988 BMW M5
  • 2012 BMW M5
  • 2013 BMW M6 Coupe
  • 2016 BMW M6 GTLM
  • 2018 BMW M8 GTE
  • 2015 BMW i8
  • 2002 BMW Z3 M Coupe
  • 1999 BMW V12 LMR
  • 1967 Brabham BT24
  • 1926 Bugatti Type 35 C
  • 1992 Bugatti EB110 Super Sport
  • 2018 Bugatti Chiron
  • 1970 Buick GSX
  • 1987 Buick Regal GNX
  • 2016 Cadillac ATS-V
  • 2016 Cadillac CTS-V Sedan
  • 2013 Caterham Superlight R500
  • 1966 Chaparral 2E
  • 1969 Chevrolet Camaro SS Coupe
  • 1970 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
  • 1990 Chevrolet Camaro IROC-Z
  • 2002 Chevrolet Camaro 35th Anniversary SS
  • 2016 Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport
  • 2017 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
  • 1967 Chevrolet Corvette Stingray 427
  • 1970 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
  • 1976 Chevrolet #76 Greenwood Corvette
  • 1995 Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1
  • 2002 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
  • 2009 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
  • 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Z06
  • 2019 Chevrolet Corvette ZR1
  • 2014 Chevrolet Corvette C7.R
  • 2015 Chevrolet Corvette Daytona Prototype
  • 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454
  • 1988 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS
  • 1969 Chevrolet Nova SS 396
  • 2010 Chevrolet Oreca FLM09
  • 1972 Chrysler VH Valiant Charger R/T E49
  • 1969 Datsun 2000 Roadster
  • 1970 Datsun 510
  • 1979 Datsun #33 Bob Sharp Racing 280ZX Turbo
  • 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T
  • 1969 Dodge Charger R/T
  • 2015 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat
  • 1970 Dodge Coronet Super Bee
  • 2013 Dodge Dart GT
  • 1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
  • 1999 Dodge Viper GTS ACR
  • 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR
  • 2016 Dodge Viper ACR
  • 2014 Dodge Viper GTS-R
  • 2013 Donkervoort D8 GTO
  • 1967 Eagle-Weslake T1G
  • 1998 Eagle Talon TSi Turbo
  • 2018 Exomotive Exocet Sport V8 XP-5
  • 1948 Ferrari 166 Inter Sport
  • 1953 Ferrari 500 Mondial
  • 1957 Ferrari 250 Testa Rossa
  • 1962 Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta Lusso
  • 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO
  • 1963 Ferrari 250LM
  • 1964 Ferrari F-158 F1
  • 1967 Ferrari 330 P4
  • 1969 Ferrari Dino 246 GT
  • 1976 Ferrari 312 T2
  • 1982 Ferrari 512 BB/LM
  • 1984 Ferrari 288 GTO
  • 1987 Ferrari F40
  • 1989 Ferrari F40 Competizione
  • 1990 Ferrari #1 Scuderia Ferrari 641
  • 1992 Ferrari 512 TR
  • 1995 Ferrari F355 Berlinetta
  • 1995 Ferrari F50
  • 1996 Ferrari F50 GT
  • 1998 Ferrari 333 SP
  • 2002 Ferrari 575M Maranello
  • 2002 Ferrari Enzo Ferrari
  • 2003 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale
  • 2012 Ferrari 599XX Evolution
  • 2013 Ferrari 458 Speciale
  • 2013 Ferrari La Ferrari
  • 2014 Ferrari California T
  • 2015 Ferrari F12tdf
  • 2017 Ferrari 812 Superfast
  • 1981 Ford Zakspeed Capri Turbo
  • 1966 Ford Lotus Cortina
  • 1973 Ford Escort RS1600
  • 1977 Ford Escort RS1800
  • 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
  • 1973 Ford XB Falcon GT
  • 1992 Ford Falcon GT
  • 2015 Ford Falcon GT F 351
  • 2017 Ford #17 Shell V-Power Racing Team Falcon FG X
  • 1981 Ford Fiesta XR2
  • 2003 Ford Focus RS
  • 2017 Ford Focus RS
  • 1966 Ford GT40 Mk II Le Mans
  • 2005 Ford GT
  • 2017 Ford GT
  • 2016 Ford GT Le Mans
  • 1965 Ford Mustang GT Coupe
  • 1969 Ford Mustang Boss 302
  • 1982 Ford #6 Zakspeed Roush Mustang IMSA GT
  • 1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
  • 2000 Ford SVT Cobra R
  • 2015 Ford Riley Mk XXVI Daytona Prototype
  • 1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
  • 1988 Holden VL Commodore Group A SV
  • 2017 Holden VF Commodore (Supercar V8)
  • 1968 Holden Monaro GTS 327
  • 1973 Holden Monaro GTS 350
  • 1977 Holden Torana A9X
  • 1997 Honda Civic Type R
  • 2004 Honda Civic Type R
  • 2018 Honda Civic Type R
  • 1991 Honda CR-X SiR
  • 1992 Honda NSX-R
  • 2005 Honda NSX-R
  • 2000 Honda Prelude Type SH
  • 1967 Honda RA300
  • 1970 Honda S800
  • 2009 Honda S2000 CR
  • 1996 HSV GTSR
  • 2014 HSV Gen-F GTS
  • 2019 Hyundai Veloster N
  • 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
  • 2012 Infiniti IPL G Coupe
  • 2014 Infiniti Q50 Eau Rouge
  • 1956 Jaguar D-Type
  • 1961 Jaguar E-Type
  • 1959 Jaguar Mk II 3.8
  • 1983 Jaguar XJR-5
  • 1988 Jaguar XJR-9
  • 1993 Jaguar XJ220
  • 2014 Jaguar XFR-S
  • 2015 Jaguar XKR-S GT
  • 2015 Jaguar F-Type R Coupe
  • 2013 KTM X-Bow R
  • 2018 KTM X-Bow GT4
  • 1967 Lamborghini Miura P400
  • 1988 Lamborghini Countach LP5000 QV
  • 1997 Lamborghini Diablo SV
  • 1999 Lamborghini Diablo GTR
  • 2011 Lamborghini Gallardo LP 570-4 Superleggera
  • 2013 Lamborghini Veneno
  • 2016 Lamborghini Centenario LP770-4
  • 2013 Lexus GS350 F Sport (FM6)
  • 2014 Lexus IS 350 F Sport (FM6)
  • 2010 Lexus LFA (FM6)
  • 2015 Lexus RC F (FM6)
  • 1969 Lola T70 MkIIIB
  • 1969 Lola T163
  • 1967 Lotus Type 49
  • 1971 Lotus Elan Sprint
  • 1976 Lotus 77
  • 2016 Lotus 3-Eleven
  • 2002 Lotus Esprit V8
  • 2011 Lotus Evora S
  • 1939 Maserati 8CTF
  • 1953 Maserati A6GCS/53 Pininfarina Berlinetta
  • 1957 Maserati 300 S
  • 1961 Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
  • 1997 Maserati Ghibli Cup
  • 2004 Maserati MC12
  • 2014 Maserati Ghibli S Q4
  • 1972 Mazda Cosmo 110S Series II
  • 1991 Mazda 787B
  • 2014 Mazda B12/80
  • 2015 Mazda Formula Mazda
  • 1990 Mazda MX-5 Miata
  • 1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
  • 2013 Mazda MX-5
  • 2016 Mazda MX-5
  • 1973 Mazda RX-3
  • 1985 Mazda RX-7 GSL-GE
  • 1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
  • 1991 Mazda #62 Mazda Motorsport RX-7
  • 1997 Mazda RX-7
  • 2011 Mazda RX-8 R3
  • 1966 McLaren M2B
  • 1969 McLaren M8B
  • 1976 McLaren M23
  • 1988 McLaren #12 Honda McLaren MP4/4
  • 1993 McLaren F1
  • 1997 McLaren F1 GT
  • 2013 McLaren P1
  • 2015 McLaren P1 GTR
  • 2018 McLaren 720S
  • 2018 McLaren Senna
  • 1939 Mercedes-Benz W154
  • 1954 Mercedes-Benz 300 SL Coupe
  • 1955 Mercedes-Benz 300 SLR
  • 1989 Mercedes-Benz Sauber C 9
  • 2013 Mercedes-Benz A 45 AMG
  • 2017 Mercedes-Benz #33 Mac Tools Ciceley Motorsports A-Class
  • 1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.5-16 Evolution II
  • 2004 Mercedes-Benz C 32 AMG
  • 2012 Mercedes-Benz C 63 AMG Coupe Black Series
  • 2016 Mercedes-AMG C 63 S Coupe
  • 2012 Mercedes-Benz SLK 55 AMG
  • 2009 Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series
  • 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG
  • 2017 Mercedes-AMG GT R
  • 1970 Mercury Cougar Eliminator
  • 1990 Mercury #15 Whistler Radar Cougar XR-7
  • 1986 Merkur XR4Ti
  • 1958 MG MGA Twin-Cam
  • 1965 Mini Cooper S
  • 2012 Mini John Cooper Works GP
  • 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX
  • 1992 Mitsubishi Galant VR-4
  • 1997 Mitsubishi GTO
  • 1999 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR
  • 2004 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR
  • 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR
  • 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X GSR
  • 1967 Nissan R380 II
  • 1969 Nissan R382
  • 1985 Nissan GTP ZX-Turbo
  • 1991 Nissan R91CP
  • 1998 Nissan R390
  • 2017 Nissan Altima (Supercar V8)
  • 1984 Nissan Bluebird Super Silhouette
  • 1969 Nissan Fairlady Z 432
  • 1988 Nissan 300ZX (SCCA Trans-Am)
  • 1994 Nissan Fairlady Z Version S Twin Turbo
  • 2003 Nissan Fairlady Z
  • 1992 Nissan Silvia Club K’s
  • 1993 Nissan 240SX SE
  • 1994 Nissan Silvia K’s
  • 1998 Nissan Silvia K’s Aero
  • 2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
  • 1971 Nissan Skyline 2000GT-R
  • 1973 Nissan Skyline H/T 2000GT-R
  • 1987 Nissan Skyline GTS-R (R31)
  • 1984 Nissan Skyline Turbo Super Silhouette
  • 1993 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
  • 1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec
  • 2002 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec II
  • 2017 Nissan GT-R
  • 2015 Nissan GT-R LM Nismo
  • 1969 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds 442
  • 1979 Opel Kadett C GT/E
  • 2016 Pagani Huayra BC
  • 1984 Peugeot 205 Turbo 16
  • 2011 Peugeot 308 GTI
  • 1993 Peugeot 905 Evo 1C
  • 1971 Plymouth Cuda 426 HEMI
  • 1971 Plymouth GTX 426 Hemi
  • 1969 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
  • 1973 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am SD-455
  • 1987 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am GTA
  • 2002 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am Ram Air
  • 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge
  • 1957 Porsche 356A Speedster
  • 1955 Porsche 550 Spyder
  • 1960 Porsche 718 RS 60
  • 1987 Porsche 962C
  • 2003 Porsche Carrera GT
  • 2014 Porsche 918 Spyder
  • 2017 Porsche 919 Hybrid
  • 1973 Porsche 911 Carrera RS
  • 1982 Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3
  • 1993 Porsche 911 Turbo S Leichtbau
  • 1995 Porsche 911 GT2
  • 1998 Porsche 911 GT1 Strassenversion
  • 2004 Porsche 911 GT3
  • 2012 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
  • 2017 Porsche 911 RSR
  • 2018 Porsche 911 GT2 RS
  • 2019 Porsche 911 GT3 RS
  • 1970 Porsche 914/6
  • 1980 Porsche 924 Carrera GTS
  • 1989 Porsche 944 Turbo
  • 1993 Porsche 928 GTS
  • 2017 Porsche Panamera Turbo
  • 2015 Radical RXC Turbo
  • 1980 Renault 5 Turbo
  • 1993 Renault Clio Williams
  • 2003 Renault Clio V6
  • 2004 Saleen S7
  • 1965 Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
  • 1965 Shelby Cobra Daytona Coupe
  • 1963 Shelby Monaco King Cobra
  • 2013 Subaru BRZ
  • 1998 Subaru Impreza 22B STi
  • 2004 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
  • 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
  • 2011 Subaru WRX STI
  • 2015 Subaru WRX STI
  • 1990 Subaru Legacy RS
  • 1969 Toyota 2000GT (FM6)
  • 1974 Toyota Celica GT (FM6)
  • 1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185 (FM6)
  • 1994 Toyota Celica GT-Four ST205 (FM6)
  • 2003 Toyota Celica SS-I (FM6)
  • 1974 Toyota Corolla SR5 (FM6)
  • 1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex (FM6)
  • 1989 Toyota MR2 SC (FM6)
  • 1995 Toyota MR2 GT (FM6)
  • 1998 Toyota Supra RZ (FM6)
  • 1992 Toyota Eagle Mk III
  • 1999 Toyota GT-One TS020 (FM6)
  • 2014 Toyota TS040 Hybrid (FM6)
  • 2015 Ultima Evolution Coupe 1020
  • 1990 Vauxhall Lotus Carlton
  • 2006 Vauxhall Astra VXR
  • 2012 Vauxhall Astra VXR
  • 2016 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
  • 1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
  • 1992 Volkswagen Golf GTI 16v Mk2
  • 1998 Volkswagen Golf GTI VR6 Mk3
  • 2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
  • 1981 Volkswagen Scirocco S
  • 1988 Volkswagen Scirocco 16v
  • 2017 VUHL 05RR
Cars spotted in FM and awaiting confirmation:
  • 2010 Mazda B09/86 — featured in June 2022 presentation, later removed from the list
  • 1988 Mitsubishi Starion ESI-R — featured in June 2023 trailer, later removed from the list
Cars that seem highly probable to return
  • 2016 Abarth 695 Biposto
  • 2002 Acura RSX Type-S
  • 1934 Alfa Romeo P3
  • 1950 Alfa Romeo 158
  • 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GTA Stradale
  • 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2
  • 1968 Alfa Romeo 33 Stradale
  • 2007 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
  • 2014 Alfa Romeo 4C
  • 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio
  • 2006 Aston Martin DBR9
  • 2011 Aston Martin One-77
  • 2017 Aston Martin DB11
  • 2014 Audi S3 Saloon (BTCC)
  • 2009 Audi RS 6
  • 2014 Audi R8 LMS ultra
  • 2004-2006 Audi R8 (LMP1) [FM6]
  • 2011 Audi R15++ TDI
  • 2011 BMW 1 Series M
  • 2014 BMW 125i M Sport (BTCC)
  • 2016 BMW M2 Coupe
  • 2008 BMW M3
  • 2009 BMW M3 GT2
  • 2014 BMW M4 Coupe
  • 1995 BMW M5
  • 2003 BMW M5
  • 2009 BMW M5
  • 2014 BMW Z4 GTE
  • 1977 Brabham BT45B
  • 2011 Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
  • 1979 Chevrolet Camaro Z28
  • 1960 Chevrolet Corvette
  • 2011 Chevrolet Corvette Racing ZR1
  • 2014 Chevrolet Cruze TC1 WTCC
  • 2019 Chevrolet Dallara
  • 2017 Chevrolet Super Sport (NASCAR)
  • 1969 Dodge Charger Daytona Hemi
  • 2013 Dodge SRT Viper GTS
  • 1952 Ferrari 375
  • 1957 Ferrari California
  • 1968 Ferrari 365 GTB/4
  • 1971 Ferrari 312 P
  • 2007 Ferrari 430 Scuderia
  • 2010 Ferrari 599 GTO
  • 2010 Ferrari 599XX
  • 2009 Ferrari 458 Italia
  • 2014 Ferrari 458 Italia GTE
  • 2014 Ferrari FXX K
  • 2015 Ferrari 488 GTB
  • 2017 Ferrari GTC4Lusso
  • 2017 Fiat 124 Spider Abarth
  • 1969 Ford Brawner Hawk III
  • 2009 Ford Focus RS
  • 2013 Ford Formula Ecoboost 200
  • 1971 Ford Mustang Mach 1
  • 2013 Ford Shelby GT500
  • 2016 Ford Shelby GT350R
  • 2018 Ford Mustang RTR
  • 2016 Ford Fusion (NASCAR)
  • 2017 Formula E
  • 2012 Hennessey Venom GT
  • 2007 Honda Civic Type R
  • 2014 Honda Civic WTCC
  • 2016 Honda Civic Type R
  • 2019 Honda Dallara
  • 1954 Jaguar XK 120 SE
  • 2012 Jaguar XKR-S
  • 2014 Jaguar XK GT3
  • 2016 Jaguar F-Type Project 7
  • 2018 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk
  • 2015 Koenigsegg One:1
  • 2016 Koenigsegg Regera
  • 2010 Lamborghini Murcielago LP670-4 SV
  • 2008 Lamborghini Reventon
  • 2014 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Super Trofeo
  • 2011 Lamborghini Sesto Elemento
  • 2012 Lamborghini Aventador LP700-4
  • 2016 Lamborghini Aventador LP750-4 SV
  • 2015 Lamborghini Huracan LP620-2 Super Trofeo
  • 1975 Lancia Stratos HF Stradale
  • 1980 Lancia Beta Montecarlo Turbo
  • 1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
  • 1986 Lancia Delta S4
  • 1992 Lancia Delta HF Integrale Evo
  • 2015 Land Rover Range Rover SVR
  • 1956 Lotus Eleven
  • 1997 Lotus Elise GT1
  • 2012 Lotus Exige S
  • 1957 Maserati 250F
  • 2010 Maserati GranTurismo S
  • 2014 Maserati MC Trofeo
  • 2005 Mazda Mazdaspeed MX-5
  • 2013 Mazda MX-5 Cup
  • 2011 McLaren 12C
  • 2014 McLaren 12C GT3
  • 2015 McLaren 570S Coupe
  • 2015 McLaren 650S Coupe
  • 1998 Mercedes-Benz AMG CLK GTR
  • 2015 Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG V8 Supercar
  • 2014 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG GT3
  • 1994 Nissan 300ZX (IMSA)
  • 1995 Nissan Nismo GT-R LM
  • 2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition
  • 2015 Nissan GT-R (GT500)
  • 2009 Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
  • 2010 Pagani Zonda R
  • 2012 Pagani Huayra
  • 2011 Peugeot 908
  • 1977 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am
  • 1962 Porsche 804
  • 1964 Porsche 904 Carrera GTS
  • 1966 Porsche 906 Carrera 6
  • 1971 Porsche 917/20
  • 1973 Porsche 917/30 Can-Am Spyder
  • 2008 Porsche RS Spyder Evo
  • 2015 Porsche 919 Hybrid
  • 1978 Porsche 935/78
  • 1998 Porsche 911 GT1-98 (FM6)
  • 2012 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 4.0
  • 2011 Porsche 911 GT3 RSR
  • 1987 Porsche 959
  • 2016 Porsche Cayman GT4
  • 2019 Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 Clubsport
  • 2018 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
  • 2011 Radical SR8 RX
  • 1973 Renault Alpine A110S
  • 2013 Renault Clio RS 200
  • 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX STI
  • 1998 TVR Cerbera Speed 12
  • 2005 TVR Sagaris
  • 2014 Toyota Avensis (WTCC)
  • 2016 Toyota Camry (NASCAR)
  • 2013 Toyota GT86
  • 2014 Volkswagen Golf R (unless T10 swaps it for 2021 Golf R)
  • 2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R
  • 2014 Volvo S60 STCC
  • 2016 W Motors Lykan HyperSport
Cars that seem less probable to return
  • 1968 Abarth 595 esseesse
  • 1980 Abarth Fiat 131
  • 2013 Abarth Punto SuperSport
  • 1932 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Spider
  • 1958 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Sprint Veloce
  • 1970 Alfa Romeo Montreal
  • 1986 Alfa Romeo GTV-6
  • 1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Quadrifoglio Verde
  • 1990 Alfa Romeo SZ Sprint Zagato
  • 1992 Alfa Romeo Milano Quadrifoglio Verde
  • 1992 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
  • 1970 AMC Pacer X
  • 1977 Aston Martin V8 Vantage
  • 2012 Aston Martin V12 Zagato
  • 2013 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S (could be replaced with 2018 Aston Martin Vantage)
  • 1986 Audi Sport quattro S1
  • 2015 Audi S3 Sedan (could be replaced with 2020 Audi RS 3 Sedan)
  • 2011 Audi RS 5 Coupe (could be replaced with 2018 Audi RS 5 Coupe)
  • 2013 Audi RS 7 Sportback (could be replaced with 2021 Audi RS 7 Sportback)
  • 2009 Audi Q7 V12 TDI
  • 2010 Audi TT RS Coupe
  • 2015 Audi TTS Coupe (could be replaced with 2018 Audi TT RS)
  • 2012 Audi R18 e-tron quattro (due to 2014 Audi R18 being featured already)
  • 2016 Bentley Bentayga
  • 2013 Bentley Continental GT Speed
  • 1939 BMW 328
  • 1959 BMW 507
  • 1986 BMW M635 CSi
  • 2010 BMW M6 Coupe
  • 2011 BMW X5 M
  • 2015 BMW X6 M
  • 2008 BMW Z4 M Coupe
  • 2011 BMW Z4 sDrive35is
  • 2000 BMW Z8
  • 2011 Cadillac CTS-V Coupe
  • 1955 Chevrolet 150 Utility Sedan
  • 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air
  • 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
  • 1967 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 396
  • 1953 Chevrolet Corvette
  • 1970 Chevrolet El Camino SS 454
  • 1964 Chevrolet Impala SS 409
  • 1990 Chevrolet Lola T90/00 (FM6)
  • 2017 Chevrolet IndyCar (could be replaced with 2019 Chevrolet Dallara)
  • 1966 Chevrolet Nova SS
  • 2014 Chevrolet Super Sport
  • 1971 Chevrolet Vega GT
  • 2012 Chrysler 300 SRT8
  • 1970 Citroen 2CV
  • 2012 Dodge Challenger SRT8 392
  • 2015 Dodge Challenger SRT Hellcat (could be replaced with 2018 Challenger SRT Demon)
  • 2012 Dodge Charger SRT8
  • 1967 Dodge Coronet W023
  • 1968 Dodge Dart Hemi Super Stock
  • 2018 Dodge Durango SRT
  • 2005 Dodge SRT-4 ACR
  • 1948 Ferrari 166MM Barchetta
  • 2004 Ferrari 612 Scaglietti
  • 2008 Ferrari California
  • 2011 Ferrari 458 Italia GTC
  • 2011 Ferrari FF
  • 2012 Ferrari F12berlinetta
  • 1952 Fiat 8V Supersonic
  • 1969 Fiat Dino 2.4 Coupe
  • 1975 Fiat X1/9
  • 1980 Fiat 124 Sport Spider
  • 1932 Ford Custom ‘Double Down’
  • 1932 Ford Roadster ‘Hula Girl’
  • 1932 Ford De Luxe Five-Window Coupe
  • 1940 Ford De Luxe Coupe
  • 1973 Ford Capri RS3100
  • 2010 Ford Crown Victoria Police Interceptor
  • 1964 Ford Fairlane Thunderbolt
  • 1967 Ford Falcon XR GT
  • 1971 Ford Falcon XY GTHO Phase III
  • 1972 Ford Falcon XA GT-HO
  • 2014 Ford FPV Limited Edition Pursuit Ute
  • 2015 Ford Falcon XR8
  • 2014 Ford Fiesta ST
  • 1977 Ford Foyt #14 Gilmore Coyote (FM5)
  • 1978 Ford Mustang II King Cobra
  • 1995 Ford SVT Cobra R
  • 2007 Ford Shelby GT500
  • 2018 Ford Mustang RTR Spec 5
  • 1985 Ford RS200 Evolution (in theory it matches Peugeot 205 T16 but it’s far more powerful)
  • 1989 Formula Drift #98 BMW 325i (all FD cars from FM7 could return but they could also be replaced with newer models introduced in FH4/FH5)
  • 2006 Formula Drift #43 Dodge Viper SRT10
  • 2015 Formula Drift #13 Ford Mustang
  • 2016 Formula Drift #530 HSV Maloo Gen-F
  • 1995 Formula Drift #118 Nissan 240SX
  • 1996 Formula Drift #232 Nissan 240SX
  • 1997 Formula Drift #777 Nissan 240SX
  • 1985 HDT VK Commodore Group A
  • 2009 Holden HSV W427
  • 1986 Honda Civic Si
  • 2014 Honda Civic Si
  • 1984 Honda Civic CRX Mugen
  • 2017 Honda IndyCar (could be replaced with 2019 Honda Dallara)
  • 1994 Honda Prelude Si
  • 1955 Hoonigan Chevrolet Belair
  • 1972 Hoonigan Chevrolet “Napalm Nova”
  • 1978 Hoonigan Ford Escort RS1800
  • 1965 Hoonigan Ford “Hoonicorn” Mustang
  • 2003 Hoonigan Holden Commodore Ute
  • 1992 Hoonigan Mazda RX-7 Twerkstallion
  • 1991 Hoonigan Rauh-Welt Begriff Porsche 911 Turbo
  • 2011 HSV GTS
  • 2014 HSV Limited Edition Gen-F GTS Maloo
  • 2013 Hyundai Veloster Turbo
  • 2015 Infiniti Q60 Concept
  • 2015 Jaguar XE-S
  • 2017 Jaguar F-Pace S
  • 1990 Jaguar XJ-S
  • 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT8
  • 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT
  • 2018 Kia Stinger
  • 2011 Koenigsegg Agera (it could be replaced with 2017 Agera RS)
  • 1988 Lamborghini Jalpa
  • 2014 Lamborghini Huracan LP610-4 (it could be replaced with 2020 Huracan Evo)
  • 1968 Lancia Fulvia Coupé Rallye 1.6 HF
  • 2012 Land Rover Range Rover Supercharged
  • 2009 Lexus IS F
  • 1997 Lexus SC300
  • 2017 Lincoln Continental
  • 1999 Lotus Elise Series 1 Sport 190
  • 2000 Lotus 340R
  • 2005 Lotus Elise 111S
  • 2009 Lotus 2-Eleven
  • 2013 Lotus E21 (FM5)
  • 2015 Lotus E23 (FM6)
  • 2017 Maserati Levante S
  • 2010 Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
  • 2010 Mazda MX-5 Super20
  • 2013 Mazda USF2000 (FM5)
  • 1967 Mercedes-Benz 280 SL
  • 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3
  • 2013 Mercedes-Benz E 63 AMG (could be replaced with 2018 Mercedes-AMG E 63 S)
  • 2013 Mercedes-Benz G 65 AMG
  • 2009 Mercedes-Benz ML 63 AMG
  • 2015 Mercedes-AMG GT S (it doesn’t seem needed alongside GT R and GT Black Series)
  • 2015 Mercedes-Benz Racing Truck
  • 1949 Mercury Coupe
  • 2009 Mini John Cooper Works
  • 2010 Nissan 370Z (could be replaced with 2019 Nissan 370Z Nismo)
  • 2015 Nissan IDx Nismo
  • 2014 Nissan Juke Nismo RS
  • 1966 Nissan Silvia
  • 2010 Noble M600
  • 1968 Opel GT
  • 1984 Opel Manta 400
  • 1958 Plymouth Fury
  • 2000 Plymouth Prowler
  • 1965 Pontiac GTO
  • 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP
  • 2009 Pontiac Solstice GXP
  • 2014 Porsche 911 Turbo S
  • 2016 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (it could be swapped for 2019 GT3 RS)
  • 2012 Porsche Cayenne Turbo
  • 2015 Porsche Macan Turbo
  • 2010 Renault Clio RS
  • 2010 Renault Megane RS 250 (it could be replaced with 2018 Megane R.S.)
  • 2017 Renault R.S.17 (it could be replaced with a newer F1 model)
  • 2016 Spania GTA Spano
  • 1968 Subaru 360
  • 1980 Subaru BRAT GL
  • 2005 Subaru Legacy B4 2.0 GT
  • 1996 Subaru SVX
  • 2017 Tamo Racemo
  • 2014 Toyota #12 Rebellion Racing Lola R-One
  • 2009 Vauxhall Corsa VXR
  • 1963 Volkswagen Beetle
  • 1967 Volkswagen Type 3 1600 L
  • 1967 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
  • 1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI (it could be replaced with 1983 Golf GTI)
  • 2010 Volkswagen Golf R
  • 2008 Volkswagen Touareg R50
  • 1967 Volvo 123GT
  • 1972 Volvo 1800E
  • 1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
  • 2015 Volvo S60 Polestar
  • 2015 Volvo V60 Polestar
  • 2017 Volvo XC90 R-Design
  • 1964 Watson 1 Sheraton-Thompson Special Roadster (FM6)
  • 2016 Zenvo ST1 (it could be replaced with 2019 Zenvo TSR-S)

Just like with cars from the analogical category on the first list, some models listed above have more chances to reappear and some less.

Cars that seem highly probable to be cut
  • 2015 Alumi Craft Class 10 Race Car
  • 2016 Ariel Nomad
  • 2015 Bentley EXP 10 Speed 6 Concept (I expect it to be replaced soon with a production model from the third generation of Bentley Continental GT)
  • 1957 BMW Isetta 300 Export
  • 2012 Bowler EXR-S
  • 2012 Cadillac Escalade ESV
  • 2013 Cadillac XTS Limousine (confirmed to be cut)
  • 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle Super Sport Barrett-Jackson Edition
  • 2017 Chevrolet Colorado ZR2
  • 1975 Ford Bronco
  • 1975 Ford Bronco Barrett-Jackson Edition
  • 1956 Ford F-100
  • 2011 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor
  • 2013 Ford F-150 SVT Raptor Shelby
  • 2014 Ford F-150 Trophy Truck
  • 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor
  • 2017 Ford F-150 Raptor Race Truck
  • 2016 Ford Gymkhana 9 Focus RS RX
  • 2015 Ford Mustang GT (I bet it’ll be replaced with 2018 Mustang GT, just like in Forza Horizon)
  • 2014 Ford Ranger T6 Rally Raid
  • 1946 Ford Super Deluxe Station Wagon
  • 2011 Ford Transit SuperSportVan
  • 1983 GMC Vandura G-1500
  • 1951 Holden 50-2106 FX Ute
  • 1974 Holden Sandman HQ panel van
  • 2018 Honda Odyssey
  • 2015 Honda Ridgeline Baja Trophy Truck
  • 2011 Hot Wheels Bone Shaker
  • 1969 Hot Wheels Chevrolet Camaro Super Sport Coupe 50th Anniversary Original Version
  • 1970 Hot Wheels Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1 50th Anniversary Original Version
  • 2005 Hot Wheels Ford Mustang
  • 2012 Hot Wheels Rip Rod
  • 1969 Hot Wheels Twin Mill
  • 1963 Hot Wheels Volkswagen Beetle 50th Anniversary Original Version
  • 2006 Hummer H1 Alpha
  • 2019 Hyundai Veloster Turbo (Turn 10 doesn’t need it alongside the very similar 2019 Veloster N)
  • 1970 International Scout 800A
  • 1945 Jeep Willys MB
  • 1976 Jeep CJ5 Renegade
  • 1991 Jeep Grand Wagoneer
  • 2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon
  • 2016 Jeep Trailcat
  • 1986 Lamborghini LM 002
  • 2014 Lamborghini Urus Concept (certainly going to be replaced with 2019 Urus)
  • 1975 Lancia Stratos HF Group 4
  • 1985 Lancia Delta S4 Group B
  • 1972 Land Rover Series III
  • 1997 Land Rover Defender 90
  • 2014 Local Motors Rally Fighter
  • 1968 Meyers Manx
  • 2014 Mini All4 Racing X-Raid
  • 1985 Nissan Safari Turbo
  • 2016 Nissan Titan Warrior Concept
  • 2011 Penhall The Cholla
  • 1959 Plymouth Atomic Punk Bubbletop
  • 1970 Plymouth Hemi Cuda Convertible Barrett-Jackson Edition
  • 2015 Polaris RZR XP 1000 EPS
  • 2013 Ram Runner
  • 2017 Ram 2500 Power Wagon
  • 2016 RJ Anderson Pro 2 Truck
  • 2016 Rolls-Royce Dawn (licensing)
  • 2014 Rolls-Royce Wraith (licensing)
  • 2016 Subaru WRX STI VT15r Rally Car
  • 1993 Toyota T100 Baja Truck
  • 2007 Toyota Hilux Arctic Trucks AT38
  • 2016 Toyota Land Cruiser Arctic Trucks AT37
  • 1963 Volkswagen Type 2 De Luxe
  • 1970 Volkswagen #1107 Desert Dingo Racing Stock Bug
  • 2015 Volkswagen Global RallyCross Beetle

Summary:

  • 757 cars in total on the list (731 from FM7 + 26 models from FM5/FM6).
  • 364 cars currently confirmed to return (347 from FM7 and 17 from FM6).
  • 2 cars spotted in FM8 and awaiting confirmation.
  • 139 remaining cars that seemed very likely to return.
  • 183 remaining cars that seemed less likely to return.
  • 69 cars that seemed very likely to be cut.

Questions? Corrections? I had doubts about many cars so I’m definitely open for discussion :slight_smile: …and I think I’m going to change my mind about some cars myself when I look at the list again :sweat_smile:

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I’m convinced they’re gonna take my sagaris away from me.

TVR Sagaris was featured in every Forza game up to date (apart from FM1) so it would seem logical for it to be included in the new Forza Motorsport as well… However, after Forza Horizon 5 there is also possibility that Turn 10 will exclude any car from the launch line-up to “add” it later as part of the live service :stuck_out_tongue:

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I can’t wait till they start to reveal the car list. Hopefully soon :slight_smile:

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With Series 19 launching in FH5, finally I have some material to update the list in the first post with :smile:

Neither Rally Adventure expansion, nor Series 18 have introduced even one car that could be suitable for the upcoming Forza Motorsport. However, all four #NewToForza cars from Series 19 seem strong candidates to be included in the game - although I think Rimac Nevera and Lexus LC500 are more probable as day-one cars than Cadillacs CT4-V and CT5-V.

Rimac Nevera makes an especially interesting case here. Its availability means that Turn 10 no longer needs Rimac C_Two, so I’ve swapped it for the Nevera on the list.

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People will disagree with me, but I’m quite happy the car list is being cut. It lends an opportunity to better tailor the upgrade and tuning system, the PI Class and Homologation system, the cosmetic modifications and painting system, and in general, the physics and handling models.

The problem is, if you’re a long time Forza player, you know that Turn 10 is not going to take any advantage of this, and you should realise the fact they are STILL using car models that are 16 years old is an indication they will not take this opportunity.

We should prioritise quality over quantity, and cutting the car count GIVES Turn 10 the chance to focus on that, but the incompetence since FM4, which is 12 years ago I might add, proves that they won’t.

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Makes me believe that rally and off-road racing won’t be a thing at least at launch. Motorsport is in serious need of off-road and rallying, to be honest, and it’s only a matter of time when they will actually get to implement it. I believe SUV’s and some pick-up trucks will still be there at launch, but the rally cars, heavy off-roaders and trophy trucks will likely not make the cut until there is at least some form of rallying in the game.

FM8 has the potential to have an even larger and more diverse car list than Motorsport 7 post-launch, and it was expected that the launch day car list would be slightly smaller (over 500 cars) as opposed to over 750 (786 from Motorsport 7, in fact, minus these pointless Forza Editions). I really hope they don’t continue with doing Forza Editions for this game, as they are boring, uninspired and inflate the car list in such an unnecessary way (every car is unique, but not these Forza Editions).

I probably don’t see NASCAR and/or IndyCar happening because of their involvement with the Ponzi scheme that is Motorsport Games. They go as far as holding them up with licensing and yet their games, as well as their business model, aren’t doing so well.

Just really hope that not a lot has been cut to such an extent. I still dream of every car from FM4 making it to the game eventually though.

I’m predicting at least every Hypercar and Extreme Track Toy from FH5 (minus Forza editions and the Sierra Cars Alpha Pikes Peak) will make it to FM8.

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This would be nice if you were doing a list with the cars who never appeared in Forza franchise with their probabilities to appear in FM.

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That would be one hell of an undertaking :smile:

However, I could say that one of my lists serves that purpose to some extent:

There are all cars from the Suggestions Hub that have 100 votes or more (as well as cars with 86+ votes on the second, hidden list at the bottom). Those with the biggest amount of votes (highlighted in bold) are the most probable to be featured in Forza games sooner or later… unless they aren’t lost in some kind of licensing hell (e.g. Mercedes SLR McLaren) :slight_smile:

300 cars had a great run while it lasted. Now its time for Turn 10 to let these cars go.

So we have another FH5 update announced and another four #NewToForza cars to add to the list. That’s really nice.

But… four? Not really, since both Porsche Mission R and Porsche 935 were earlier revealed as content in Forza Motorsport (albeit the latter was later mysteriously removed from the launch list).

As for Lamborghini Huracan STO and the new Audi RS 6 Avant - both are “must-haves” for Forza Motorsport and I’m sure we’ll see them in the game at launch.

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At this point, I hope a believable launch day car list is leaked.

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We have six #NewToForza cars coming to FH5 with the Series 21 update. I think two of them perhaps could be added to Forza Motorsport: Cupra Formentor and Tavascan (or three if Turn 10 wishes to let us have some dumb fun on racing circuits in the Hummer EV :smile: )

As far as I’m concerned, the best would be to have only high-performance cars, supercars and hypercars. In addition, of course, to racing cars. Enough with vans and SUVs, there’s Horizon for those, they don’t give any emotion on the track.

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Eh, no.

Forza was about being able to buy and a upgrade regular car and go track racing with it. Not to mention classic cars

Not everyone wants high perf, super or hypercars only.

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