What’s with all the casual racism recently in the lobbies? You could be forgiven for thinking you’d accidentally been invited into an EDL group chat at times. It’s never been as bad as this before, every night I’ve logged in I’ve heard some form of attacking against someone’s race or religion.
I got into a bit of an argument last night, well I say argument……a more accurate reflection would be a particular player ranted the usual murder and deportation of those he deemed not worthy. Anyway I said I just want to race and not have to hear constant racist digs, of course that earned me another torrent of abuse, which of course he was in no mood to let the facts get in the way of his rant and I was put on mute.
Party chat on this game is akin to YouTube comments at times, I know ultimately nothing can be done to sort their opinions, it just annoys me that people of all ages have to hear my ‘fellow’ countrymen sprout racist xenophobic nonsense and tarring us all with the same brush.
I don’t get why the British (which I am) tend to be the ones mostly giving the worst aggro, it grinds my gears. How do we get these parasites off this game (hopefully for good)?
Such behavior is the area covered by Xbox LIVE’s Policy Enforcement Team, not Turn 10. Follow the instructions here: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/live/abuse/
It is an effective system, it is not a perfect system. They have ways of monitoring what is going on, and use the feedback to help focus their attention where needed. They take violations seriously and when they have definitive proof, they take appropriate action.
Major Nelson used to have the head of the Team (stepto) on his podcast as a regular member. If you want a humorous look at how that team works, do a search on youtube for ‘xbox live enforcement pax’. From his time on that podcast, I can assure you they take things very seriously.
Use it or don’t complain. The Policy Enforcement Team takes a very dim view of racism, among other things, over Xbox LIVE.
If you’ll read the link I posted, you’ll see, among the items which are subject to bans from Xbox LIVE, include:
•Profile: The player’s gamertag, personal picture, or personal information contains inappropriate material.
•Text and Voice Communications: The player used vulgar, hateful, harassing, or threatening language in voice or text communications.
•Video Communications: The player was vulgar, hateful, harassing, or threatening in video communications.
•Tampering: The player tampered with a game, an Xbox 360 console, Xbox LIVE, or the feedback system.
No, “we” can’t record the conversations, but the Policy Enforcement Team employees can and do join rooms with the offenders to listen in on the conversations. They also can and do issue immediate suspensions, because they can disconnect the people from Xbox LIVE. It goes something like this:
PET: You’re being warned your language is in violation of the Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct.
Offender: Ya, sure, do something about it &)^)*!
PET: Sorry you feel that way. You will now be disconnected from Xbox LIVE. When you attempt to log back in, please read the message from XBL Big Brother. It explains the violation and your ban.
Offender: Offline . . .
Logging back in, the message is something like this: “XBL Big Brother: Your account has violated the Xbox LIVE Code of Conduct. You are now banned until December 31, 2999.”
you dont. the kiddies have been there since live went online. fortunantly they’re not the only one with a mute button. we all get angry once in a while and say stuff we shouldn’t, some do it all the time. but eventually there would be zero people on live if you banned everyone when they made a mistake. we all try to fight fire with fire. why usually the brttish for you? ping rates. you tend to play with the people nearest you to prevent lag. for americans its usually other americans. for the asians it’s probably other asians.
ranted the usual murder and deportation of those he deemed not worthy
How do we get these parasites off this game (hopefully for good)
Racism in this day and age is a disgusting thing and only shallow minded little people go down that route. But sadly that is the kick some people get when gaming online. It is the same with crashers, campers, team killers etc…people love to grief and some take it beyond the virtual world. Do as Snowowl states and eventually we will rid this scum.
Hard to kick those who are in groups dominating lobbies though, they got put on mute but of course some in the lobbies had their kinect mics in, couldn’t escape from it bar leaving the game. Why should I stop playing and be pushed out of a lobby because I don’t wish to be hearing the C word every few seconds and how they’d happily cut everyone of a certain colour/religion. They spam the lobby and block the public chat with the incessant ranting and trolling.
But glad it all worked for you in Fm4, that’s very impressive.
it was everyone else in the room? and it was so bad…but not bad enough for you to go to another lobby where they weren’t? you should have changed lobbies…because it was the easiest and smartest thing to do. if a lobby is full of crashers i go find a different lobby, i dont waste my time trying get them to play how i want. some times you gotta help yourself. if you ever get a flat tire you’ll get where you are going alot faster if you change the tire than if you sit there telling the tire it wasn’t suposed to go flat so it better air its self back up. people aren’t like inanimate objects? sometimes they are. if they are stuborn enough to think their way or the highway and insist they are going to get their way. and in cases like that the majority usually wins.
you shouldn’t have to put up with it? you didn’t have to put up with it, yet you chose to when there was a simple option. when its the rest of the room just block them and find a new room. you asked how to basically deport people who want to deport people. you stood up to them? you gave as much as you got? then i doubt you had clean hands either. if someone does come in the room and the whole room is complaining about one person who is complaining about the rest of the room i suspect the lone wolf is going to be told to go alone. dont expect others to go out of their way to do something you could have easily done for yourself.
if you went to a new room it might not have had many people in it? if a mod kicks everyone out of the room except you its not going to have many people either so whats the difference? that they won or you won? its an empty room either way. you have mute, you have block, you have the ability to get away from what offends you. if you choose not to use any of the options already provided for you why ask for yet another option? the xbox is an entertainment device, you are suposed to enjoy the experience, if you aren’t enjoying it change the experience. change the channel to the show you want to watch rather than leaving it on the same channel and demanding they move the show to the network your tv is already on. it’s gonna be much less stressful and alot more enjoyable.
You’re deliberately missing the point (and it almost reads like you’re excusing it).
I’m not being forced out of a room due to bad behaviour, whether that’s racism, trolling, crashing, whatever. I refuse to give in and be pushed out of a room. I block the individuals when I can and carry on, I’ve felt recently the level of abuse on Fm5 is nothing like it was on Fm4, or Fm3, I’m perfectly within my rights to comment on it as a paying customer of XBL…hence this thread.
I tried to debate back with one of them yes, but I wasn’t offensive in what I said, so you can forget trying to make out that everyone is as bad as each other and therefore it should be ignored.
I know full well there’s lots of bad language and insults, a lot of it washes straight over me, there are times though where some people are above and beyond what’s typically expected.
The solution is to report these folks to Xbox LIVE’s Policy Enforcement Team, in accordance to the link I’ve already posted here, then BLOCK the people. You don’t need to say anything, just take the appropriate measures. Anyone remember UNO, especially with the Xbox Cam? People decided that was a good place to expose their, uh, anyway, those folks were permanently banned off Xbox LIVE.
There is no need for racism or other bad behaviors, and Xbox LIVE’s PET will take the appropriate actions.
Who cares, people all have racist tendencies, some more than others, those who have more of these tendencies find XBL anonymity to be a perfect outlet for their racism, which if publicly spewed, they would need to own up to and take actual accountability for. These guys are just cowards who act like Klan members on their headst and hold racist ideas. Look if that is how they go to sleep at night and it neither breaks my leg or robs my purse, what do I care? That ladies and gentlemen is what the mute button is for.
Still, their sounding off is deplorable and I condone it in no way. I just am shedding light on the reality of the situation.
Yup pretty much. I have heard outlandish things spewed over xbox live since I first had it over 10 years ago now? From everybody 5 to 50 years old. Luckily I am not easily offended. I dont do it. I dont condone it. But I dont let it bother me either. You can block, mute, report, kick, leave the lobby, take off your headset, shut off your kinect and everything. Dont let it ruin your day or your race. (no pun intended) I cant imagine a verbal issue that can’t be solved with the mute button.
Unfortunately you will not convince people their racism is wrong. Many of them will swear they’re aren’t racist and exhibit some quite ridiculous protective rationalization as to why what they’re saying isn’t racist, or for that matter homophobic. Others just want to be able to shout what they have to repress during their normal days.
Don’t even argue with them. Mute them. Report them to xbox with an explanation and a date and time. They won’t even see the ban coming an you won’t have to deal with them again.
You’re right. We shouldn’t have to tolerate it and if we take the correct steps we won’t. As they say, “you can’t fix stupid” but you can eliminate it from it your online life.
People can be real jerks. That’s all there is to it. I can tell you for a fact that the XBLPET does review each and EVERY complaint filed. If you run into them file a report please. Then it is up to you to stay/block/mute or whatever. People like to say “kiddos” and such are doing it. That’s a bit true but there are just as many, if not more adults that act like jerks on LIVE.