… sigh
I have driven against Eduardo’s Mini and Clio I believe in rivals. I’ve tailed him quite a bit. I’m also saying his tuning is not the way I tune my cars. That’s all. I used his advice today, just to check it out, in a FWD old Golf, a new Fiesta, and a new Focus, all built for Rally - one D, one B, one A. Along with a ME/RWD Stratos(C, A, S1), an AWD WRX(A, S1) with heavy rear bias on the diff, and a E30 BMW (B, A, S1). And yeah, I don’t like it, and the way I drive the cars, especially in the dirt, throws their weight around, causes plenty of transfer, and it’s too much with settings that extreme in both ARB and Diff. And it didn’t matter if it was 4/40 front/rear or 40/4 front rear on the sway bars. Heck, I even did it with extremes on the shocks, springs, aero, brakes, you name it. Tried it all, leaving the others at the settings I enjoy, or at default too for a better base example.
Didn’t like it. And they didn’t drift. I’ll give them that. With the heavy rear sway, they Oversteered, initially, HARD. Way too twitchy. I know “loose is fast” but uh… not for me. And that’s my whole point.
I like a car with heavy front sway bar, it transfers the weight back, to the rear tires on exiting the apex and during the ease. Which allows hard grip for better acceleration out of the hole. I brake late. Trail-brake often. I even figured out a way to heel-toe with a controller. Then I shoot out of the turn after.
I usually prefer a car with springs that balance out the front sway bars want to cause initial understeer. I then also set my shocks to have a slight bias towards a transitional oversteer for the hole-shot out. I’d rather spin IN, than slide OUT. So in that, my Diff settings on RWD are heavy in Accel. And light on FWD. My AWD cars are tuned towards a reward bias. Much like a new GTR with it’s standard “hot” setting (don’t know exactly what it’s called) that when the throttle is applied, it transfers most to the rear. My diff settings are also fairly closely related much like in real life. 80% accel, 40% decel would be an example. And it’s used on every BMW. Just like the real ones with track-based diffs. It causes less sporadic changes and a smooth transition.
Which is what I go for.
I dig deep. I drive clean. And most importantly I drive to drive SMOOTH.
Settings like his don’t cater to my driving style.
And I don’t appreciate it when he thinks just because he tops the leaderboards he can have a chauvinistic elitist attitude on these forums. His way isn’t the only way. His driving line isn’t the only fast one. Yeah it’s quick, but it isn’t the only one that is. When he makes statements that are also quoted with something I said and states “some people should test more.” Yeah, I get offended. Just finished the Storm Island Finale, finally, for the first time (don’t know if there’s a second, hoping so). Haven’t finished the second finale in the normal game. Check out my races completed. If you can offline. I drive with slack AI, because offline I just want to drive the car and learn the track. Drivatar or Rossi, I don’t like either. It’s not realistic enough for me. But then again, few things are in that regard. But more importantly, check out how many miles driven…
then tell me I don’t test, or tune. Because what else would have gotten that many miles in all my games? Don’t matter either. Check them all. Go ahead.
I like my cars balanced. And I’ve also noticed a lot of people enjoy my tunes because they’re balanced and easy to work with, and then adjust to suit their tastes - because I share them with them, so they can adjust them. Instead of changing their driving style and line to suit a car. It’s why I don’t usually download other people’s tunes except just to check them out really quick and help someone out that I like.
But seriously take it from someone who can SEE what is happening. I doubt Eduardo knows how to trail-brake every turn, how to approach every apex at perfection, how to heel-toe clutch/shift perfectly, and how to always do everything perfect.
Fact is no-one can. It’s something we all try to achieve IF we bother to CARE enough. I do, but only in rivals mode personally. And once I get in the top 1% on that track in the car I like, I’m good and move on.
There’s always someone faster, there’s always someone quicker.
And, there’s always someone with more experience and seat-time.
I just honestly wish Eduardo wouldn’t preach, but instead mentor.
I know plenty of people that didn’t join these forums, even if they got Teir 7 just by doing it (guessing, they’ve been playing since Forza 2 - full completion), their gobs of credits, and everything. Just because they don’t like the community’s attitude as a whole. But isn’t that what this is supposed to be? A place to help BUILD community for the Forza games? It doesn’t seem to be working on a lot of fronts. Heck, that’s why I used to enjoy this tuner section. But dumb me, thinking it was different than the racing one.
Honestly, for the most part plenty people here talk out of their behinds. And claim to be experts. Then when someone who actually knows what their talking about speaks up, let alone shares something on the forums, like a tune, they get ridiculed.
unfortunately now, already this thread has already been used by others as an example of why this forum doesn’t build and be an asset to the community. They never signed up.
And trust me when I say this, y’all would have loved to have them… if you would have given them the chance without preaching or messing with them first.
