I am having a very difficult time understanding why I just paid $1.25 mil for an Audi Team Joest R18

Okay, new to Forza…any Forza…first racing game. I played on 35% difficulty throughout the game…won almost every race in the career. At level 50. Decided to try out the P series, and got what appeared to be the top specced P series car. Paid $1.25mil. At 80 mph, on a dry track, with max assists used (only one I turned off was the brake warning), in a formula supercar, I can’t hold the road. Ummm, what could I possibly be missing? How is it possible that my Audi A3 handles the track better than this car at the same speeds? Am I the only one noticing that the physics equations used completely don’t match reality? A 1.25 million dollar supercar racecar on a dry track can’t hold the road at 80mph. I’m blown away. Game goes back tomorrow. What an utter waste of time. I thought the movie Gravity was an awful display of physics…give Gravity the academy award, because this is beyond bad.

In game currency is credits not dollars. Lol.

Keep playing. I’m thinking this is more on your end than the car. I remember when I started in FM2 I thought the high end prototypes where undrivable. Are you using driver assist and brake assist?

Race cars are almost nothing like street cars. (The P stands for prototype btw) Any racing vehicle like prototypes, formula 1s, gran prix, even GT cars (in R class) behave much better at speed. I haven’t driven it much, but from what I remember, the R18 is far from an entry level P class, I hate to say it, but the R8 (the all wheel drive E-tron) from Audi would be the best car for starting to get a feel for how the real race cars feel without spinning out on every corner below triple digit speeds. The reason why it feels so crappy at low speeds is because these cars have a very bad turning radius, the stiffest suspension you can imagine, and are usually built around downforce, it all makes sense when you are doing 180 mph, just not so much when you try to corner at pedestrian speeds.

If you don’t have the credits to just buy an E-tron, try tuning the R18, specifically under the “Aero” tab, definitely max out the rear downforce, it will push the rear wheels into the ground harder than the front making it easier to put the power down, but dont over do it, too much will slow you down a lot on the straights, and maxing the rear and leaving the front end at default can make your car understeer at high speeds.

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In Soviet Russia, racetrack drive car on YOU.

Truth is, LMP cars do everything a normal cars do, but in an extreme way. All the positive aspects of a high performance auto are greatly enhanced: speed, handling, brakes that will snap your neck, and so on.

Unfortunately, such single-minded design work also magnifies the flaws in modern hypercars: twitchyness, oversteer, clumsiness at lower speeds.

All this really means is R, P and X class cars are hard to drive, and most assists just slow 'em down. I’d suggest holding off on racers for now, keep practicing in road cars until you can handle some A and S class rides with all assists OFF. Then you’ll be ready for the hardcore stuff.

@ Iceman: No need to beat the guy up, he DID say it’s his 1st driving sim. There’s a difference between incompetence and inexperience. At least give him credit for picking up the right game!

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2nd post, another thing:

Cars like the LaFerrari or Pagani Huayra can help prepare you for GT and LMP racing. Try the Ariel Atom and KTM Xbow for a taste of how F1/Modern Indy cars go.

F1 & indycars handle nothing like the Ariel Atom on Forza 5 from what i’ve experienced…i’d compare the Atom to a rally car setup for ice racing, ie, nothing like the real thing which sticks like glue. One of the worst handling models on the game imo.

Really? I thought the Atom was a blast. Didn’t even tune mine, just upgraded it. Ranked #156 in the Laguna Seca autocross rivals event with that thing.

With a bit of a tune it is fantastic fun to drive. I suggest StellaStig’s tune on youtube, I think that he is in the tuning marketplace

Sounds more like user error. That Audi is one of THE most planted cars in the game.

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It’s you man… I can drive the Audi just fine with no assists at all. Practice makes perfect. U did say this is your first firza and first racing game. Stick with it u will get better.

I did a drivetrain swap on the Arial and made it AWD, fun as hell to drive!

those cars are really powerful and need downforce from air, if you are not driving 100+ km/h they’re useless, the trick is to accelerate reeeeeeally slowly, brake early, step on the gas early, get speed. These cars needs you to be very smooth around the track

[Mod Edit - inappropriate - DE] Just because you’re not good enough yet to drive a new class of car doesn’t mean you quit and return the game! You have to practice sometimes to get good at something. The games physics are spot on btw. The problem lies with you not the car. You just need more practice and you need to try your hand at tuning. Forza is a sim and Forza 5 more so then the previous editions. So just like in real life race cars need to be tuned for the track they’re driving on and to suit your driving style. You sound like a quitter in your post and remember that quilters never win. Try again and gain some patients.