How to have excellent handling?

Please help me, im new to tuning cars. I perfer cars that handles well at tracks,but i cannot make a tune that is suited for me.

Learning how to tune is a long process, and I am just getting started myself. There are some good tuning guides posted here, so I would start there.

thank you, I appreciate the information.

It all starts with the build for handling cars. I don’t know how experienced you are with driving but here are my recommendations:

  • Start in D class
  • Turn off ABS, TCS & STM…learn to use manual and then manual with clutch. It’s really hard to tune with assists on.
  • Use the right cars on the right tracks
  • Watch the top leaderboard replays
  • Check out Worms pinned tuning guide in this forum
  • Look at and use the open source tunes posted in this forum
  • Ask questions anytime here…lot’s of great people that are willing to help

If you don’t already use manual with clutch…here is a videos on how to - Forza 5 Tips & Tricks - How to Use Manual Shift With Clutch - YouTube
Here is a video on how I create my base tunes - Forza 5 Tips and Tricks - How to Create Base Tune - YouTube
Here is a another on using a rivals replay video to create a build - Forza 5 Tips and Tricks - How to Create Base Tune - YouTube

Why are you telling him to use manual with clutch! What dose that have too do with helping him build a car that handles better?

First I would recommend reading worms guide to better understand what adjustments do what. Secondly if you want a very stable well handling car the build needs to be skewed towards handling and grip. Start building cars lower in class than your putting them into. If your making a C car start with a well handling D car. Add chassis parts like brakes, suspension, ARB, chassis brace, weight reduction, f/r aero and then tires and tire width. Follow the tuning guide for setting psi, ARB, spring rates and damping and camber. Look at some of the open source tunes built towards grip.

Manual will absolutely help you with handling. The ability to control your RPMs in and out of turns is huge. Then manual with a clutch will make you even faster. It’s really not that hard to learn. Everything else in you post I agree with.

Using manual I will totally agree with, the ability to sit in the correct gear into and out of a corner is key. I also agree with using the fewest amount of driver aids as possible will help in setting up the car and not masking problems. However I think people throwing out use the clutch line all the time doesn’t help anyone. It will only make you faster if your a good driver in the first place. How many people are near the bottom of the leaderboards using the clutch along with TCS,STM and ABS? If they spent more time focusing on corner entry, hitting the apex then corner exit instead of the clutch they would be much faster and better off. It’s not the cure all speed secret every one makes it out too be. The people at the top of the leaderboards would still be up their without using the clutch wouldn’t they? Sorry I just want the beginners to focus on the important tasks first then when ready to shave those last few tenths of a second off switch over.

I understand when beginning to play Forza games it is difficult to get it all at once. However, I think concentrating on Braking without ABS, Shifting with Clutch, and turning TCS and Stability off from the beginning will help you in the long run. Take it from me it is more difficult to use auto/manual and ABS and relearn how to stop using them. If you want to get a true understanding how cars works, handle, shift I would suggest turn them all off at once, go hit the Rivals and learn your brake points and turn in/out points from those that are faster than you on a certain track. Then it is a track by track learning opportunity to learn each of those. I agree with both of you on what you need to know, but don’t hesitate to start with how you will race in the long term. This will limit and re-learning you will have to do because you couldn’t make it up that hill due to lower RPMs.

Absolutely the basics of driving come first, and that’s where watching replays come in. I think where most people make a mistake is when they first start playing the game, they grab their favorite “super” car and head out driving in a higher class. That’s great if you just want to go out and have some fun driving those types of cars and for some people that enough. But if you want to get better start in the lower classes and work you way up through each class.

As for manual w/cluthc, once you learn to drive manual…you might as well just add in the clutch. If you switch the clutch to A (works best for most people), you can learn it in like 30 minutes. But if you are not comfortable with it you can still do very well with just manual. I do think you are undervaluing using the clutch a little…in some cases (lower classes) it can be worth seconds on a lap time.

As a non-clutch user I absolutely know how much of a difference it makes in lap times between equal drivers.

I do totally agree with you in the fact is most beginners are power crazy! I glad to see the O.P. Is looking in the right direction. Also DressChalice681 you will begin to find building your own grip tunes the more comfortable you get driving the better your skills will progress. Then when your ready you can skip the tire upgrade in lower classes and add some of that power back into the car.

I’d start with a lower end car (class D or so ) and only look at tire pressures and springs. Start small and learn how changes to those impacts the car. Then you can look at more options down the road.

If you start tinkering with everything but don’t know how those two work, you’ll be lost.