Forza 5 - Legit Competitive Future?

Forza Motorsport Legacy Motorsport FM5 Discussion
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Can Forza 5 and all future Forzas go competitive?

I was playing earlier today, and I was thinking - Why don’t big name eSport orgs promote competitive Forza (or any sim racing)?

I have been competitive in gaming since I could remember, i’m just a competitive person. I’ve been around the competitive CoD, Halo, CS:GO, Titanfall, etc scene for a few years now - But I absolutely love Forza! It is the only game that i’ve truly thirsted to be competitive in.
I’m sure there are a few other drivers out there who would enjoy going competitive in FM5 and beyond. Truly recorded competitive as in online daily gamebattles with a season $2k final, or little private brackets with small enjoyable prizes. Anything that could keep a competitive driver happy and always in motion, or something for newer drivers to test out. I’m sure someone else had though about this idea of legitimate competitive Forza for the Xbox One. Forza, like any other game, always has that lingering crowd of people who want to show how good they truly are, to put their expensive sim-racing setups to good use. Or that crowd of people who want to be a big name in Forza racing, and work their way up the ranks, win prizes, put prize money to use, just overall the whole eSports journey.

I would love to see this game have a dedicated little page, or club, or anything that promotes competitive racing. Actual recorded competitive racing. Somthing that is versatile, providing multiple ladders.
Example:
Singles - General Racing
Singles - Drifting
Singles - Drag Racing

Then if your asking - Well what if I am a team player, I’d like to somehow compete with my friends, or meet new competitive friends?

Then a team system would be brought to the table and be discussed and ladders created. You may ask - How can teams be in Forza?[
I’d imagine that for a 4-man team against another 4-man team (4v4), you’d have a race of 8 drivers.
The team with the lowest combined score would win!
Example:
Team1 v Team2

Team 1 Finished Placings:
P1 - 1st
P2 - 5th
P3 - 2nd
P4 - 7th
Total = 15 points

Team 2 Finished Placings:
P1 - 3rd
P2 - 4th
P3 - 6th
P4 - 8th
Total = 21 points

Team 1 would win the race!

Back to the Main Point

Anyway, to sum up this discussion(or desire, statement etc) -

I would like to see some creation then dedication to competitive Forza. Even if Forza Motorsport itself created an option for weekly brackets with a point system, or ranking system, a system to keep track of who’s who in the world of competitive Forza. I know there is a ranking system for times of laps on maps etc, but a different system for only competitive players who take part in the brakcets, in the tournaments, in the finals and so on.
Now this want for competitive racing does not have to explode so quickly. I myself would like to see at least some form of a new branch of racers who all equally share the passion for competitive Forza Motorsport on the Xbox One.
Even if it is a one-tournament-a-week kind of setup, that is still at least somthing to motivate for, even if your prized some credits, it’s still fun, somthing to talk about, train for, and meet new people who all love getting that #1 title. And then over time it would grow and grow and keep growing to more options. USA Tournament, UK Tournament, AU Tournament, EU Tournament, CAN Tournament. A fun thing for every competitive driver out there in FM5 to truly go against others, gain fame for your love of competitive racing. To put your gear to the test, to stay up late, to grind the game, to make connections, to just over all discover this whole new branch of FM racing. Over time it would evolve into new things, nothing good should happen all at once, all I am saying is -

Forza Motorsport 5 and all future Forza Motorsports should have an option (in game prefferebly, or out if someone creates a well run sim-racing eSports org) that allows competitive drivers to race, train, motivate, and put their skills to the test in a legitimate eSports enviroment. Supplying tournaments, singles or teams, and a ranking system to show the world who’s who.

Many of you readers must have questions, I would like to see loads of others discuss this idea(and i’m sure many many others have had this idea too, no credit goes all to me at all) and overall talk about what you’d like to see. What you’d be worried about, what you enjoy, would you want this?
I know i would most definitley want this to be a real planned out branch of FM!

Thank you very much for reading, once again, please discuss, i’d love to see what everyone else thinks.

-Isabella “Nitrii” Rivetii

Twitter: @VwS_Nitrii

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This heavily depends on how much focus T10 is gonna put on “Pro” features in FM6. The current version is seriously lacking in this department, and given that console games are mainly focused on the casual gamer, i doubt that we will see an MP environment that makes competitive gaming possible. Currently there is no point distribution for championships, you can’t set the starting grid before the race and there are no practice or qualifying session. And there’s no real ranking system, apart from the existing driver rank which is a joke, imho. Currently its just bare-bones basic racing, nothing fancy.

Some leagues use workarounds to achieve at least a hint of proper racing, like doing a manual warm up lap (lap 1 of the race) during which players take there starting position manually and then perform a rolling start.

PC is the best place for this (iRacing) and even on PS4, Polyphony Digital put some focus on competitive racing in GranTourismo.

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Exactly… if you want real racing with qualifying… Play GTR2 but its a Computer only game… and you will need a wheel and foot pedals. good ones.

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What happened to the Bondurant Racing School tie-in that was mentioned when the Bondurant pack was released? That hasn’t been mentioned since to my knowledge, and while it’s not exactly what you’re asking for it sounded as if it would be along the same lines from the very small amount of information we got on it.

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Thats from the Bondurant Car pack announcement:

Turn 10 Studios is also excited to announce The Bondurant School of High Performance Driving in Arizona will be unveiling a new “Forza-inspired” driving class. The “Forza Motorsport Grand Prix Road Racing Class” will debut later this year and give interested drivers a chance to hone their racing skills at one of the world’s most established racing schools.

Looks more like a real-life thing and not a new mode in FM5…whatever “forza inspired” means (maybe just a big forza sticker on the driving class cars?)

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The Bondurant Tie in is that the visual graphics for all auto-cross events were changes and renamed to Bondurant School of Racing Autocross Event (or something like that)…

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Ah, okay. I was hoping it’d be an in-game racing school type deal, maybe even with a view to something like the Nissan GT Academy project. Oh well.

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FM5 doesn´t have the infrastructure to allow such champioships. It doesn´t have a spectator mode for a start and that automatically excludes it from any tournament. Given the current trend, I doubt T10 is interested in such thing as their pursuit of the “casuals” is getting bigger and larger neglecting everything that makes actual, proper racing possible.

Want to go racing? Competitively? Try iRacing
At least that is what I´m going to do!

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Yeah spectator mode I completely forgot about that. Now that you reminded me I wonder why it’s not in Forza5? Hm.

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I heard that the FIA and the Gran Turismo developers will have official racing leagues starting in 2015. This will be the first form of competitive racing that is outside the PC market. Iracing, on the other hand, has an official NASCAR world championship in the game (Iracing).

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Check out the racers lounge, there are plenty of user created leagues with TONS of competition.

It’s very enjoyable when someone takes countless hours to tune a group of cars so they perform roughly the same so no one car has advantage over another even if PI is different.

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Not the same thing. Those are reliant on players making the most of the situation. You have to search for that stuff. The game in and of itself doesn’t promote any competitive racing.

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You can do qualifying in FM5. Set the qualifying session with win criteria on fastest lap. Run the qualifying session race. Then for the race set starting grid to room points and you will start in the order you finished qualifying

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How do you get it to set the grid to points? I can only get it to set to PI or Random. Also, do you have any idea what the ‘Event Driven’ scoring option does?

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You can’t, lobby points only works in previous forza games

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Actually you can, but not in free play. You have to go to multiplayer and set up a private custom lobby. Once you are in a car, highlight your car and press A. You can use the bumpers to navigate through several menus where you can make several changes to the rules and scoring.

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That’s where I am, but I only get the options for PI or Random positions in FM5, nothing to set it to points like there was in FM4, even when teams are enabled and the scoring type option is available. That’s where the ‘Event Driven’ option is found, which I’d love to know the function of. Also I don’t see where it displays the points when scoring is turned on, either in the event results at the end of the race or in the lobby afterwards. Do points only get awarded if there is more than one human player in the room or something?

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I’m honestly not sure how it works but I have been involved with a series that did it. Maybe hit up simracingnation and hit up Shlepprock or send him a message from the console? He was setting up the races we ran

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Eventually the less successful teams or drivers would lose interest. There are millions of owners of this game and only a thousand or so are active online. Almost everyone has their personal wish list for Forza, but there is no way this title can be any more than a diversionary game. Find what little fun you get here and go with it.

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The biggest reason (imho) that Forza has never had anything on the level of GT Academy is less because of the game, and more because America and Americans and American car companies (which is where the game headquarters is located, even though there are world-wide players) have a very much smaller interest in road racing than European and Asian countries. From my understanding, Nissan backs GT Academy, and essentially allows it to exist. To get something on that level, one of the American car companies would have to step up and back the program, along with a channel into the factory team at the Tudor level or something. Personally, I don’t really ever see that happening, as sad as it is.