I’ve been running the Endurance lobby this week (only place to race p class) and I think the format is just not working. Virtually no players make it to the end of the race
Practice is too long
Pitstop strategy is pretty much always 2 stop for mediums
Quick qualifying times scare players away
Most lobbies have emptied by 15 min to only the class leaders
The race info is infuriating, no lap count, laptime or sector splits
If you’re the only player left and you leave, your rating drops
Driving on a wheel, it’s very uncomfortable 30 min in
Driving around on your own for 45 min is mind numbingly boring. When it’s happened to me, I’ve tried to access the driver assists menu to turn on assisted driving and at least farm some credits, that menu is unavailable. So it’s either hot lap on your own with zero information or quit and take a ratings hit.
Constructive suggestion
AI players mixed in to make the grids bigger
Race ending last player rule. If you’re the only player left in the lobby the race should end upon the next complete lap
30 min max race time
10 min practice
Race info (lap number, lap time, timing splits)
The lobby is a good idea, just hasn’t worked out in its current guise.
I agree that I wish Lap and sector times were working because it becomes hard to see the drop off in tire performance without lap times now I am just seat of my pants waiting for a Severe Tire Wear Message before Heading to the Pits.
The Time doesn’t Bother me when I race Real Cars our Enduro Races were 60min, 45min or 30min depending on the track and the Weather Conditions .
I am out of practice for Long Races I found myself making dumb mistakes about 40min in and made sloppy mistakes with less than 5min to go almost losing the podium with less than a minute to go … that is just getting used to Racing and I never actually Ran a Race at 10pm after working and all the other Stuff so that is just different.
The Long Practice time I don’t mind because I like to have a little time to Mess with the Setup of the Car … which I could use Setup Manager to import a Previous Tune for the car that I have choose but that function does not seem to be available for the Online Multiplayer World
If Setup Manager was available to import my Car Setup I would be all about a much shorter Practice Time … 10 min would be fine two or three laps with my Tuned Card and then Qualify
I think the problem for some is that there’s no incentive to finish them, so if you aren’t winning by end of Lap 1, may as well quit and join the next race (or do something else).
What the AI would do is get in the way, the AI is terrible in this game
I agree with everything said thus far. But I would add that not many casual player want to race for 60 mins so endurance races should be the most hardcore experience forza had to offer.
-Long races
-Mandatory pit stops
-Damage on( increasing pit times and frequency. Also slowing down cars with damage to also allow people the get back into the race
All these things would help with tightening up the races and get people to understand that if you mess up in the beginning there are other ways to get back into the race and they may quit less.