I am having trouble with 900 degrees of rotation and at 360 degrees. whats the ideal setting for the thrustmaster TX wheel on the v8 class and GT class. Any help would be appreciated. I am currently running the GT cars as 360 DOR but still not comfortable in that either. 1 small mistake leads to a big uncontrollable spin out. need some of your feedback.
360 is about right for the race cars, I suppose you could go lower if you wanted to, or feel you need too. The F1 cars may respond better at 300DOR, but for all the race cars in forza I just stick to 360DOR and haven’t had an issue.
Have you adjusted the deadzone settings, and set the force feedback levels to a place where you are comfortable?
My settings are as follows in the advanced controller settings menu:
Steering deadzone = 0/100
Acceleration deadzone = 0/99
Deceleration deadzone = 0/99
Rumble = 85%
FFB = 85%
DOR = 900 for road cars and drifting, 360 for all race cars.
Have you used a wheel with 900DOR before by the way?
Thank you for your response. I am using 0/100 for all deadzones currently…the accell, deccel and steering. and my FFB is at 100% along with rumble and vibration the same. the reason is so i can feel the cars more as i don’t drive with much assists. Have you experienced any issues with your laptimes going down from switching from pad to steering(my B has gone up but i dont drive them much)? I feel that the steering is too touchy out of the corners or if your car goes even slightly in the grass, it tends to spin out way out of control or any sort of slippage, its an automatic spin out with not way of correcting it. the high power A cars (corvette ZR1 for example) are notorious for this. I guess I will keep practicing with 360 steering. the GT cars tend to be ok with the 360 but my holden is too hard to manage with 360 DOR. I wanted to know the realistic car settings so i can match it to my wheel. the more realistic to the car, the better it will be I think.
I haven’t noticed my times been slower, but then I have used wheels on and off over the years.
For a comparison I took the Holden V8SC completely stock around Bathurst, with 900DOR, 360DOR, using Normal steering first, and then Sim steering. I did 10 laps with each DOR setting, and for each steering setting. I was able to get a 2:10.7xx with 900DOR with normal steering, the same with Sim steering also. On 360DOR with normal steering I was able to get a 2:09.9xx, on Sim steering I was able to better that and finished with a time of 2:08.987. All test where done with TCS/STM turned off, no ABS, and manual with clutch.
The car in question has a lot of power going to the wheels, so it was a handful in a few places. It suffers from a fair bit of throttle on oversteer, which is easily sorted by been a bit easier on corner exits. The Holden V8SC really requires you to concentrate, but you also have to relax with it. Its very easy to fight it and mess up a lap by pushing it too hard, so a few slow laps are required to learn where it can be pushed, and where you need to take it easy. I also hit the grass a few times, regardless of the steering setting used (DOR, Sim/Normal), it was easy to keep it the correct way around. Its more of a handful on Sim steering though, and you need to be even smoother with the throttle, brakes, and steering. It made me pay more attention, and by being smoother is where I gained the extra second over the 360DOR with normal steering time.
I would say that you need to practice with the wheel, I think that is the only real issue you are having. I would also suggest turning down the FFB to about 60% and running a few laps, if it feels a bit too “soft”, then turn it back up slowly in small increments and test again. I would also say you need to work on your throttle control, and also countersteering on the wheel. The easiest way to do this is to take a low powered RWD car in testdrive/tuning menu around the open airfield (the one used for Tag), and just throw it around for a bit. The wide open space allows you room for error, but also allows you to learn how to control the cars when the back end looses traction.
Thank you! this definitely helps. Bathurst was exactly what I was referring to when i said I was having trouble with the Holden. but this helps a lot! thanks so much! but quick question, why the deadzone of 99 on accel and decel? what does that accomplish? I keep at 100 and i have heard a lot of folks keeping it at 100. any suggestions on that?
I just like to be sure that a full press of the accelerator or brake, is a full press.
I too have been struggling with the stock Holden at Bathurst - feels like I’m tip-toeing around - (actually, I am!) and my times are really poor. The over-steer on throttle is the killer for me, and I’m finding that to counter it I’ve been cornering in higher gears (2nd when I should be using 1st and 3rd when I should be using 2nd) to try to keep the car stable on exit, but this means I accelerate to slowly out of the corners. I’ll try dropping the FB down to 60 to see how that feels - not sure it will make a difference with the issues I’m having but worth a try.
I also find myself over-braking a lot as when I don’t over-brake I lock-up which is not something I’m used to as I use load cell pedals on FM 4 which I still race competitively in.
Just going to be a case of practise, practise, practise.
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If your having to drop down into first gear for corners on Bathurst, then you are just not going fast enough around them. There is no corner at all you should be in first for, the Holden V8SC stock, you should be going no lower than second on the tightest of corners. I would suggest braking eariler but with less pressure on the pedal, that should solve your braking issues till you adjust to the TX pedal set. You also need to be a lot easier on the throttle on the corner exits, as there is a ton of power on oversteer with this car. It shouldnt be too much of an issue though, you just need to be going fast enough around to the corner, and in the correct gear to actully use the engine.
Here is my replay, I put it on YT a couple of days ago.
My place on the S class Bathurst LB is 1428 at the moment in the Holden V8SC, it might pay you to watch the replay within forza in the cockpit view. You will be able to see how fast I am going in the corners, and what gear I am in for them. Im not the fastest in Forza, and I was using the stock car as well (the same as yourself); but Bathurst is one of my better tracks within FM5. I am currently at 52 on the Spec challenge Australian made rival event in the Holden HSV.
I should clarify, I never go into 1st at Bathurst in the stock Holdon or Ford Falcon, The lowest I go is 2nd.
My average times are mid 2:11’s. Today I’ve raced a rival ghosts of a friend that is running a similar time to me in the stock Ford. I’m generally around 1 sec+ up on him until the chicane and final bend where I have to tip-toe around whereas he just seems to be able to fly through that section with a lot more traction. But at least I know where I’m losing the time now and can make adjustments.
I’ve only just started to use the V8’s as we’re setting up a V8 league at stopdropgaiming.com (a bit of a plug LOL) so it’s a case of getting used to it and practising.
Thanks for the video link. and your help. I’ll definitely have a look at the replay.
I didnt know you can watch replays within Forza. where do I go to do this? wow, you learn something new each day.
You can do it in 2 places, the first is via the “forza tv” icon on the main menu. The second is via the rivals leaderboards, you highlight someone on the LB and press A, and you should get a list of options. One will be to “set as rival”, another will be “watch replay”